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THE BEATLES

Bon, on lit souvent, dans les bouquins sur les Beatles, qu’ils furent de vraies bêtes de scène, surtout à l’époque où ils n’étaient pas encore connus et où ils jouaient surtout des standards du rock’n’roll et du rythm and blues. Ces témoignages émanent de personnes qui les ont vu jouer au Star Club de Hambourg ou bien à la Tavern de Liverpool et paraissent crédible. Toutefois, il est aujourd’hui difficile de s’en faire une idée. Les rares bandes de ces premiers concerts sont d’une qualité médiocre, qui les confinent à un simple intérêt historique. Par la suite, les concerts des Beatles deviennent assez stéréotypés : en général 11 ou 12 morceaux torchés en 30 minutes et où la seule part laissée à l’improvisation est celle des blagues qui ponctuent chaque chansons (et encore, même là, les Beatles se répètent pas mal).

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Plus intéressantes sont les innombrables bandes de sessions aujourd’hui disponibles. Elles permettent de se faire une idée du processus de création musical des Beatles. On peut ainsi assister à l’évolution des morceaux depuis la simple suite d’accords de guitare ou de piano jusqu’à la véritable mini symphonie finale. En effet, à partir de 1966, les Beatles ont cessé toute tournée et se sont concentrés sur le travail de studio. Pour s’en faire une idée, on pourra utilement consulter les liens suivants :

– pour une première approche, « Anthology Outtakes » (6 CD)

– pour aller un peu plus loin : « The complete artifacts collection » (14 CD)

– Autre collection de sessions diverses, les « Complete Ultra Rare Tracks » (8 CD)

– Pour les archéologues, les « Complete Home demos, 1958-1962 » (6 CD)

Mais tout cela ne concerne que les petits joueurs. Pour les vrais psychopathes, il existe des bootlegs autrement plus conséquents. On les trouvait autrefois sur le site « Qualityboots », mais celui-ci a fermé et les liens ne sont – hélas – plus valides aujourd’hui (du moins je le crains, mais on peut quand même aller y jeter un coup d’oeil pour voir) :

– Sessions du double album blanc (12 CD) : http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/2009/05/beetles-white-album-purple-chick-12-cd.html

– Sessions de l’album « Get Back / Let it Be » (6 CD) : http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/2009/05/beetles-let-it-be-purple-chick-deluxe.html

– Autre version des mêmes sessions, mais en 8CD cette fois : http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/2008/03/beatles-twickenham-sessions-8-cds-flac.html

– Enfin, le morceau de roi : les sessions complètes de l’album Abbey Road en 83 (sic!) CD : http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/2009/01/complete-abbey-road-sessions-purple.html.

Pour ce qui concerne les concerts, en voici une sélection répartis sur la période 1962 à 1966, plus leur ultime concert, donné sur le toit du bâtiment Apple, le 20 janvier 1969.

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(Liste chronologique)

1958-1969 – COMPLETE HOME RECORDINGS

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 1

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 2

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 3

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 4

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 5

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 6

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 7

1962-1969 – ULTRA RARE TRAX VOL. 8

1963-1969 – ALL YOU NEED IS THIS

25/12/1962 + 28/12/1962 – STAR CLUB, HAMBURG

09/02/1964 + 16/02/194 – CONQUERING AMERICA (ED SULLIVAN SHOW)

11/02/1964 – CONQUERING AMERICA (WASHINGTON DC)

17/06/1964 – AUSTRALIAN TOUR

July & August 1964 – SEATTLE DOWN

23/08/1964 – THE COMPLETE HOLLYWOOD BOWL CONCERTS

20/06/1965 – LIVE IN PARIS 1965

15/08/1965 – SHEAKEN, NOT STIRRED (THE BEATLES AT THE SHEA STADIUM)

18/08/1965 – SHEAKEN, NOT STIRRED (ATLANTA)

19/08/1965 – SHEAKEN, NOT STIRRED (HOUSTON)

29/08/1965 – THE COMPLETE HOLLYWOOD BOWL

30/08/1965 – THE COMPLETE HOLLYWOOD BOWL CONCERTS

30/06/1966 – FIVE NIGHTS IN A JUDO ARENA

1967 – MAGICAL MYSTERY DEMOS

1966-1967 – THE ALTERNATE SGT PEPPER’S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND

Fin Mai 1968 – ACOUSTIC MASTERPIECIES : THE ESHER DEMOS

JANVIER 1969 – THE BLACK ALBUM

20/01/1969 – AS NATURE INTENDED (THE ULTIMATE ROOFTOP CONCERT)

20/01/1969 – COMPLETE ROOFTOP CONCERT

1969 – GET BACK (THE GLYN JOHN’S MIX)

1994-1995 – MEET THE THREETLES! (as the THREETLES)

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A long rumoured "Take 20" of the Beatles' ''Revolution'' has surfaced. Mark Lewisohn had described it in his exhaustive and detailed ''The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions: The Official Story of the Abbey Road Years 1962-1970'' from 1988. Since word got out on this in late February 2009, the YouTube version has been yanked due to a complaint from [[EMI]]. I had a chance to download the MP3 and give it a listen, and it's amazing! Well worth the wait. '''Listen to it [http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2009/02/beatles.html here.]'''

 

A long rumoured "Take 20" of the Beatles' ''Revolution'' has surfaced. Mark Lewisohn had described it in his exhaustive and detailed ''The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions: The Official Story of the Abbey Road Years 1962-1970'' from 1988. Since word got out on this in late February 2009, the YouTube version has been yanked due to a complaint from [[EMI]]. I had a chance to download the MP3 and give it a listen, and it's amazing! Well worth the wait. '''Listen to it [http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2009/02/beatles.html here.]'''


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July 8, 2009: Dr. Ebbetts - Creater of Many Beatles Remasters from Vinyl - is Retiring!

Dr. Ebbetts sent out an email to his many fans, stating that he'd heard some of the new Beatles remasters coming out on September 9, 2009, that they are far superior to his remasters from pristine vinyl, and that he'd no longer be offering his remasters and was abandoning his years-long project. As he said, he only initiated his project of creating remasters because the Beatles CDs on the market, produced in 1988, were inferior.

Dr Ebbetts took The Beatles blue box releases, which many believe is the best vinyl representation of the original Beatles recordings, and put on a beautiful polish. Digitally transfered from virgin vinyl and remastered with meticulous attention to detail, Dr. Ebbetts brought out the warmth and shine sorely lacking from the official EMI releases. The blue box collection of re-masters is considered by many to be the best versions of The Beatles albums available.

Read Dr. Ebbetts' email...

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[http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2009/02/beatles.html Listen to 10-minute version of "Revolution 1" on the "Never Get Out of the Boat" blog »

A long rumoured "Take 20" of the Beatles' Revolution has surfaced. Mark Lewisohn had described it in his exhaustive and detailed The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions: The Official Story of the Abbey Road Years 1962-1970 from 1988. Since word got out on this in late February 2009, the YouTube version has been yanked due to a complaint from EMI. I had a chance to download the MP3 and give it a listen, and it's amazing! Well worth the wait. Listen to it here.

One source speculates Fred Seaman stole the tapes from Yoko's Dakota digs after Lennon was murdered. The Fred Seaman story...

Great article on the track and the sessions by Rip Rense

From Beatles Examiner:

A newly surfaced outtake of the Beatles' song "Revolution" from a bootleg CD is causing much discussion and buzz among Beatle fans on the internet.
The song, RM1 of take 20, recorded June 4, 1968, clocks in at around 11 minutes and starts with an engineer announcing the take then John Lennon saying, "Take your knickers off and let's go." It also gives sonic evidence, as was documented by Mark Lewisohn in "The Complete Beatles Recording Session," that a lot of experimentation and improvisation went into "Revolution" before it was trimmed to the tighter version that was released on the White Album.
The song then begins as "Revolution 1" does on the White Album, but the guitar strumming is extended. The differences continue with Lennon vocal experimentation and previously unheard sound effects. The end of the track features an almost comic chorus of "Mama, Dada, Mama, Dada" sung by Paul McCartney and George Harrison. None of this, of course, appeared on the White Album.

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Get Back - The Glyn Johns Mixes (Clarified)
'Rough Mix' Acetate and original (1st) version of the unreleased Get Back Album
January-May 1969


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Available in both Lossless (FLAC) and mp3 (320 kbps) versions

OK, I had only planned on a single Beatles post as part of this feature of classic bootlegs, but there are so many great Beatles boots, that it is hard to stop at just one. So, I thought I would put up something representing the original Get Backalbum concept, but which version? As I went back through all my Get Back sessions-related recordings, with all the different versions and recordings, I realized that it had became very confusing sorting out just what was what. So, what I am presenting here hopefully will help clarify a little just what the deal is with all the various (released and unreleased) versions of Get Back, and it's subsequent counterpart, the Let It Be albums.
       First of all, we all know the general story of the Get Backproject, right? Since giving up touring and performing live years ago, and after they had become known for their elaborate studio effects and recording gimmickry and trickery, and particularly after the very isolated individual recording sessions used for the White album, The Beatles (driven primarily by Paul) thought it would be a great idea and help to restore cohesiveness among the fractured group to be more involved in playing and recording live, and create their next album that way. So, The Beatles would 'get back to their roots' and develop and record their next album live, as a full group, with no overdubs or recording gimmicks, and the songs would grow directly out of the rehearsal sessions, and be presented 'warts and all', and this process would be documented as both a film and album, and hopefully (for Paul, at least), an actual live show or tour, and would be called 'Get Back'. Great, right? Well, as we all know, things didn't go so well right from the start, with rehearsals beginning on January 2, 1969. Since the rehearsals were to be filmed, it was decided to conduct the initial sessions in the Twickenham film studios, which, as it turned out, no one liked, as the large soundstage was cold and cavernous. The bickering and acrimony among the group returned as soon as rehearsals started, and the rehearsals were rough and ragged. After several days and tempers flaring, George walked out, leaving the group for a week before being talked into coming back. On his return it was agreed that they would move to their new recording studio in the basement of the Apple building (which was actually nowhere near ready and mobile recording gear had to be borrowed from EMI's Abbey Road studios) for the remainder of the sessions. As for the live shows, the rest of the Beatles (particularly George) were not at all keen on performing live, so that aspect was dropped, but at the end of the sessions, it was eventually decided to do an impromptu filmed concert on the Apple rooftop (which, as we know, was halted partway through by police for noise and disruption complaints).
       After the Get Backsessions and concert were concluded on January 31, The Beatles themselves were fed-up and not happy with the whole thing, and just lost interest in the project, and moved on to other things (actually started working on songs for Abbey Road almost right away). Producer Glyn Johns was brought in to work on the recordings, but was not really given any direction or cooperation from The Beatles. After working through some early rough mixes of several songs, Johns had an acetate made (March 10, 1969) of his mixes to distribute to and get feedback from The Beatles. This acetate version was never intended for release, but was a 'work in progress' of what he had done so far. A few days later he pressed another acetate of primarily Rock 'n Roll oldies from the sessions, as well as different takes of 'Let it Be' and 'I've Got a Feeling'. He continued working on the tapes, including leaving or editing in rehearsal background noise, song fragments, and studio chatter to enhance the 'rehearsal' atmosphere of the recordings, and on May 28 produced what he considered to be the finished version of the Get Backalbum (known as the 'original' or '1st version'). Incidentally, overall, this album did stick to the original 'live' concept with no overdubs; however, there was one one notable exception, in that a new guitar solo (recorded 4-30-69) was overdubbed into 'Let It Be' and used on the album (but this was the only overdub).
      The album was scheduled for release in early July. A cover shoot was done, recreating the photo from their first album (Please Please Me), but then the album release was delayed and put on hold (reasons cited included delays with the Film version, but the real reason was probably that The Beatles were just not that happy with the album). By late August, The Beatles were putting the finishing touches on Abbey Roadand were eager to release that instead, so Get Backwas shelved indefinitely. By the end of the year, as plans for release of the film were firming up, they went back to Johns to revive the project again, but this time with the added instruction that the songs on the album needed to correspond with what was shown in the film. So, 'Teddy Boy' was dropped (not in film, and Paul had already re-recorded the song for his upcoming solo album), and 'I Me Mine' and 'Across the Universe' were added to the album. Unfortunately, they had no complete multi-track recordings of either of these songs from the January sessions. So, in early January, a new recording of 'I Me Mine' was made specifically for the album (the earlier, original 1968 recording of 'Across the Universe' was used). In addition, new overdubs for 'Let It Be' (another new guitar solo, background vocals, drums, and brass added) were also recorded at that time (1/4/70 - which was the last ever Beatles recording session, with only Paul, George, and Ringo present - John was away on vacation in Denmark, and had little interest at this point), but this new overdubbed version was not used by Glyn Johns for Get Back(but was used by Phil Spector for the Let It Bealbum). Thus, in January, 1970, Johns completed his final version (sometimes referred to as '2nd' version) of the Get BackAlbum (which was very similar to the 1st version - same overall order and mixes), with changes being the 2 added and 1 dropped songs, and 'Let it Be' moved from the 13th track to the 8th track (2 new songs added as tracks 14 and 15). However, that 'final' version of the album was also ultimately rejected for release. Then, a bit later (March 1970), John, without consent from Paul, brought in Phil Spector to 'make something out of this mess', which eventually resulted in the released Let It Bealbum, complete with different takes used, extensive editing and remixing, and orchestral overdub overhauls of 'The Long and Winding Road' and 'I Me Mine', and 'Across the Universe'. Thus, Get Back became Let It Beand was finally released on May 8, 1970 (which was after The Beatles had already officially announced their break-up). Then, years later, the final chapter in this saga was in 2003, when Let It Be...Naked was released, which consisted of further editing and remixing of the original tapes (but this time overseen and approved by McCartney himself), removing Spector's string overdubs, and producing what many feel are the best versions of these songs (however, many overdubs and edits were still used used, contrary to the original concept).

So, what I am presenting today, is what seems to me to be the best available version of Glyn Johns original rough mix acetate (3-10-69), taken from an only recently made available upgraded source, known as  'Untouched: Revision A'  (Pet Sounds version - de-clicked, phase-corrected, and speed-corrected). Highlights of these early mixes are that several different takes of the songs are used than in any subsequent releases, including a less formal take of 'Let It Be'. In addition, I have added in as bonus tracks, some tracks from Johns 'oldies' acetate (3-13-69), which includes the full-length 'Dig It', an alternate 'I've Got a Feeling', and the unadorned 1-31 take of 'Let it Be' (Before the 4-30 and subsequent overdubs added). Part 2 of the post presents the complete original (1st) version of Glyn Johns Get Backalbum (I have used the Dr. Ebbetts version for improved sound quality). Then, in addition, I have also included the 2 tracks ('I Me Mine' and 'Across the Universe') that were added for the '2nd' or 'final' version of the Get Backalbum (as previously stated, the rest of the album was essentially the same between 1st and 2nd versions, with only minor mixing or editing differences, so I have not included the full 2nd version - besides, the 1st version really better represents what the Get Backalbum was supposed to be). Now, much has been said over the years criticizing and complaining about the various versions of this album, these sessions, etc. But in reality, regardless of all that went right or wrong here, these sessions contained some of the Beatles greatest songs ever - 'Let It Be', 'Get Back', 'The Long and Winding Road', 'Don't Let Me Down', 'Two of Us', etc., and I love being able to hear all these different versions. I was always fascinated by the original Get Backconcept and tried to find as much information as was available on it. Now, we have it all laid out for us, to make our own decisions as to what are the best (or worst) versions (In fact, virtually everything from these sessions has been available on bootlegs, including the entire recordings from all the filmed sessions - available as Purple Chicks 83 CD set 'The Complete A/B Road Sessions', which is, even for me, serious overkill). So, anyway, there you have it, all you really need to have and know about the Get Backalbum and project (although there is so much more out there), in the best forms available. And another all-time classic bootleg.       

Part 1
Untouched: Revision A
Upgraded source of Glyn Johns' early mix acetate (March 10, 1969) containing the 'rough mix' work-in-progress of the Get Back Album. The Pet Sounds Production - de-clicked, phase-corrected and speed-corrected.
Plus Bonus tracks from Johns' 'Rock n Roll Oldies' mixes (March 13 Acetate) - Taken from the boot 'Get Back, Glynis: The Complete Glyn Johns remixes' 
Tracklist:
1. Get Back - false start
2. Get Back
3. I've Got A Feeling - fragment
4. Help! - fragment
5. Teddy Boy
6. Two Of Us - fragment
7. Two Of Us - false start
8. Dig A Pony
9. I've Got A Feeling (1-23 take)
10. The Long And Winding Road
11. Let It Be
12. Don't Let Me Down
13. For You Blue - with two false starts
14. Get Back
15. The Walk
Bonus tracks: From Glyn Johns' March 13 'Oldies' Acetate
16. Rip it Up/Shake Rattle & Roll
17. Blue Suede Shoes
18. Dig It (full length 8:25)
19. You Really Got a Hold on Me
20. I've Got a Feeling (different take, 1-27)
21. Miss Ann/Kansas City/Lawdy Miss Clawdy
22. Let It Be (1-31-69 take, no overdubs)

FLAC - Beatles - Glyn Johns Early Mix Acetate

mp3 - Beatles - Glyn Johns_Early Mix acetate_mp3

Part 2
Get Back Album - Glyn Johns 1st (original) version
(Dr. Ebbetts release)
tracklist
1. One After 909
2. Rocker
3. Save The Last Dance For Me
4. Don't Let Me Down
5. Dig A Pony
6. I've Got A Feeling
7. Get Back
8. For You Blue
9. Teddy Boy   
10. Two Of Us
11. Maggie Mae
12. Dig It
13. Let It Be
14. The Long And Winding Road
15. Get Back (Reprise)
Bonus tracks: From Glyn Johns 2nd (final) version of Get Back Album (Taken from Dr.Ebbetts release)
16. I Me Mine
17. Across The Universe

FLAC - Beatles - Get Back - 1st vers (5-28-69)

mp3 - Beatles_Get Back_Johns_1st_vers_(5-28-69)_mp3
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Just to follow this up:

If you do a search you can locate all of the Purple Chick deluxe titles, as well as a treasure trove of other sets.

To download, you get redirected to one of those “megaupload”-type places.  You can download for free, but you’re limited to one download a day and it’s fairly slow.  An average album takes me about 20 minutes.

I’ve paid the subscription before which allows you to download multiple files a LOT faster, and I’ve never had an issue with the billing or anything.

BUT…  If you want to try for free, go to the link and the download button is on the bottom.  Make sure you uncheck the option to use their downloader.  You’ll then get a 45-second countdown before you can click the link to start the download.

Once it’s done, you’ll need to unpack the .rar files.  If you don’t already have an unpacking program, just go find ‘Winrar’.  It’s free.  Just install it.  It’s safe.

Now that you’re ready to unpack, just open the .rar file and drag the folder inside to your desktop.  It’ll unpack in a few seconds.  

Please note – Some of the files are FLAC files and some are MP3.  If you don’t know, FLAC is a lossless file.  It’s basically the complete uncompressed digital information.  Most general-purpose burning programs can handle it, but your iPod won’t.  MP3 files are (as everyone knows) compressed and of a lesser sound quality.  But your iPod will accept them lovingly.

Have I missed anything…?

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Updated 07-13-2011: A freshly updated list to many blogs and sites where you can download Beatles and solo bootlegs in FLAC and mp3 format.


Beatles bootlegs in FLAC format

http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/sea...el/Beetles-The - Updated July 9, 2011 with the River Rhine Tapes.

Solo Beatles in Flac

http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/sea...-The%20members - Updated this month with John Lennon's WZMF phone interview.

Other sites offering Flac files

http://mychaosandcreation.blogspot.com/ - Another great site containing FLAC files with lots of Paul is live bootlegs.Currently some from the recent Up and Coming and On The Run tours.

http://yourmothershouldknow03.blogspot.com/ - Many great bootlegs, a lot of them in FLAC, tho mostly Elton John related.

http://juliocmail.blogspot.com/ - Mixture of bootlegs in mp3 and Flac format. Nice site with frequent updates.

Mp 3 sites

http://octaner.blogspot.com/index.html - Beatles and solo boots in mp3. And some FLAC.


Older sites:


http://mujubox.blogspot.com/index.html - Beatles, solo and other boots as 320 kbps AAC files.

http://bootlegtunzworld.blogspot.com/ - some Beatles bootlegs in mp3 format.

http://thebeatlesrarerecordings.blogspot.com/

http://returntopepperland.blogspot.com - Macca and Beatles boots and videos. mp3 at various bitrates.

http://beatleshelp.50megs.com/beatlegs - Tribute to HELP! Offers some mp3 files.

http://beatlesource.com/bs/mains/audio/audio.html - The Source. Rare Beatles and solo boot mp3s

http://justbeatlegs.blogspot.com/ - Beatles boots

http://eternosbeatles.blogspot.com/index.html - solo and group boots as 192 kbps mp3 files, not updated in years.


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Some of these are dead, most are mp3's.

Does anyone REALLY burn a CD from mp3's?

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Yes, I burn MP3's despite being mediocre quality. But I cannot be too picky about something that is free.

I don't think it's being "picky" at all when there is free software (EAC or Windows Media Player, to name two) that allows one to make an exact copy of a CD.
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I got a lot of questions still about bootlegs in mp3 format. Not everyone knows how to handle FLAC files or has a lot of storage space on their pc, or have other reasons they are looking for mp3's. So I keep both the sites that has FLAC and mp3's.

I'll go through the sites and update the list one day again.

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I got a lot of questions still about bootlegs in mp3 format. Not everyone knows how to handle FLAC files or has a lot of storage space on their pc, or have other reasons they are looking for mp3's. So I keep both the sites that has FLAC and mp3's.

I'll go through the sites and update the list one day again.

FLAC or wav files are no more difficult to handle than mp3 files are. One can get the flac frontend (and EAC comes with it) for free. Using EAC one can rip an EXACT copy of any CD in the same amount of time and with the same effort as required to rip it as mp3's. If you can make an exact copy, why do anything else?

I could give you a list right now of which sites on your list are not good if you want.

Dinostunz, for one, is void of anything. There are no boots by anyone there at all.


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I'll be keeping the mp3 sites on there for people who still wants to download mp3's, and there are many of them.

Dinostunz is still working, tho you have to click on the link to their new url. I'll update that. Thanks for pointing that one out.

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FLAC or wav files are no more difficult to handle than mp3 files are. One can get the flac frontend (and EAC comes with it) for free. Using EAC one can rip an EXACT copy of any CD in the same amount of time and with the same effort as required to rip it as mp3's. If you can make an exact copy, why do anything else?

Hard drive space. Mp3's are much smaller, how much smaller depends on compression, of course, but at best quality a Mp3 is still about 1/2 -1/3 of the file size of a FLAC and 1/5 or less of a Wav.
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Hard drive space. Mp3's are much smaller, how much smaller depends on compression, of course, but at best quality a Mp3 is still about 1/2 -1/3 of the file size of a FLAC and 1/5 or less of a Wav.

A 320 KBPS mp3 is nowhere near the 1411 KBPS of a wave file in QUALITY. Besides, one can get a 1 terabyte disc for under $100 US now. So, the space argument doesn't fly anymore.

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A 320 KBPS mp3 is nowhere near the 1411 KBPS of a wave file in QUALITY. Besides, one can get a 1 terabyte disc for under $100 US now. So, the space argument doesn't fly anymore.

Ah, but it all depends on WHO's hard disk we're talking about here, doesn't it? Server hard disk space is by no means cheap! I should know, I've worked as site admin for well over a decade. Also there's the matter of the monthy transfer limit to adhere to. Just check out some ISP site hosting packages and see for yourself.

In my opinion, you should be glad people offer you free downloads to start with. If you pay for the download, yeah, THEN you can gripe about the quality, not of free stuff you don't pay a cent to get.

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A 320 KBPS mp3 is nowhere near the 1411 KBPS of a wave file in QUALITY. Besides, one can get a 1 terabyte disc for under $100 US now. So, the space argument doesn't fly anymore.

Sorry.

I don't see the problem here.
If people want to download mp3's, and as said there are plenty who still do, they can do so. I am not going to remove these sites and ask everyone to just buy an external harddrive.
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For the sake of convenience, MP3's are the most universal. Many people do not like to download additional software (free or not) to be able to listen to a song or burn a CD. MP3's can transport instantly to iPods and CD's. Still I'd say MP3's are of sufficient quality if they are out selling CD's although I do prefer lossless myself. Unfortunately, iTunes does not offer FLAC or other lossless files.

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For the sake of convenience, MP3's are the most universal. Many people do not like to download additional software (free or not) to be able to listen to a song or burn a CD. MP3's can transport instantly to iPods and CD's. Still I'd say MP3's are of sufficient quality if they are out selling CD's although I do prefer lossless myself. Unfortunately, iTunes does not offer FLAC or other lossless files.

Actually, iTunes offers files in Apple lossless format, AIFF.

MP3's are not more convenient, just more used because most people are computer naive.
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Ah, but it all depends on WHO's hard disk we're talking about here, doesn't it? Server hard disk space is by no means cheap! I should know, I've worked as site admin for well over a decade. Also there's the matter of the monthy transfer limit to adhere to. Just check out some ISP site hosting packages and see for yourself.

In my opinion, you should be glad people offer you free downloads to start with. If you pay for the download, yeah, THEN you can gripe about the quality, not of free stuff you don't pay a cent to get.

Sorry.

I'm a computational chemist and have been sys admin everywhere I've worked since 2000. Server disk space isn't cheap because business people know they can charge big bucks for the space and get away with it.

We have a server where I work and when we need more space we just go and buy a bunch of external drives.

You obviously weren't around when disk space was $450 for 30 MB.
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I don't see the problem here.
If people want to download mp3's, and as said there are plenty who still do, they can do so. I am not going to remove these sites and ask everyone to just buy an external harddrive.

You don't have to do that. You could list, however, what is available at each site, so the serious collector like myself doesn't waste their time. There are others like me that only do flac format. If you doubt it, check out demonoid sometime.
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Actually, iTunes offers files in Apple lossless format, AIFF.

MP3's are not more convenient, just more used because most people are computer naive.

Nobody is necessarily being naive because they don't want the extra clutter. When they start replacing MP3 players with lossless players (which I would like), then I can understand the inconvenience. I believe AIFF is only available for Apple products. I am not sure if the newer phones and music players are gradually accepting different music formats, but MP3's still seems to dominate the other formats. Anyway, as a major collector myself (one of those blogs listed being mine), I will generally try to offer lossless. But I have no problem settling with MP3 is that's all that's available.
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Nobody is necessarily being naive because they don't want the extra clutter. When they start replacing MP3 players with lossless players (which I would like), then I can understand the inconvenience. I believe AIFF is only available for Apple products. I am not sure if the newer phones and music players are gradually accepting different music formats, but MP3's still seems to dominate the other formats. Anyway, as a major collector myself (one of those blogs listed being mine), I will generally try to offer lossless. But I have no problem settling with MP3 is that's all that's available.

What "extra clutter"? You just burn the flac files to a CD-R, which is easy to do, and then delete the "unwanted" originals.

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The extra clutter of additional unwanted software to be able to burn lossless files (not all burning software allows this). Not to mention CD's themselves tend to be the most saturated. Why do you care anyway?

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My findings:

1) http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/

2) http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/sea...el/Beetles-The

3) http://qualitybootz.blogspot.com/sea...-The%20members

Several Beatles bootlegs in FLAC

4) http://mychaosandcreation.blogspot.com/

Many flac bootlegs

5) http://octaner.blogspot.com/index.html -- Beatles and solo boots

Mostly mp3 bootlegs.

5) Dino and Princess'Bootleg Tunz World http://bootlegtunzworld.blogspot.com/

No boots here.

6) http://yourmothershouldknow03.blogspot.com/

Good site, about half flac and half mp3.
Many great bootlegs, a lot of them in FLAC

7) http://thebathroomwindow.com/

I couldn't find any boots here.

8) http://thebeatlesrarerecordings.blogspot.com/

There were 28 boots listed with some dead links.

9) http://returntopepperland.blogspot.com -- Macca and Beatles boots and videos: mostly mp3's here.

10) http://beatleshelp.50megs.com/beatlegs — Tribute to HELP. Also other boot mp3s. Offers single songs only.

11) http://beatlesource.com/bs/mains/audio/audio.html — The Source. Rare Beatles and solo boot mp3s

A few mp3's offered here.

12) http://eternosbeatles.blogspot.com/index.html --- solo and group boots

Some mp3's and sme links to them are dead.

13) http://downinthegroove.blogspot.com/ -- some beatles and solo boots; this site seems to be dead.

14) http://sirfev.blogspot.com/ -- Fev's rare discs. Macca boots

This site has no boots at all.

15) http://justbeatlegs.blogspot.com/ -- Beatles boots

I couldn't find anything usable here.

16) http://mocholand.blogspot.com/ -- Beatles, solo and other artistes boots: mp3's here.

17) http://beatlesmania.blog.com/ -- Beatles and solo boots. This site also seems to be dead.

18) http://maccabelgium.blogspot.com/ -- macca + beatles boots
Mostly mp3's here.

19)http://mujubox.blogspot.com/index.html -- Beatles, solo and other boots

Probably the third best site on this list: a few boots in flac and the rest is in 320 kbps AAC, which is better than 320 kbps mp3 format.

A good job on this list, though some sites are lacking, which is not the fault of the list maker.

You missed Juliocmail's blog at http://juliocmail.blogspot.com/

Julio has a good amount of flac stuff on his blog.

Keep up the good work all!

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The extra clutter of additional unwanted software to be able to burn lossless files (not all burning software allows this). Not to mention CD's themselves tend to be the most saturated. Why do you care anyway?

You've obviously never used software to burn losslessy. Or you have a computer that is ten years old?

On my pc, the programs FLAC, Burn4Free, and EAC take up 0.98, 2.65 and 10.0 MB, respectively.

On the other hand, iTunes, which is probably a program many use to play mp3's, takes up 112 MB, almost 10 times the space that those "cluttering" programs required to burn lossless discs occupy.


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